I was about to start going to the E-Watchman site and start posting there or whatever, however, I just saw people proclaiming that they were Jehovah's Witnesses and they still go to the organization but then they talk about how bad it is and stuff. Just like E-Watchman, he talks about the hypocracy of the org then like, he still goes to the congregation and calls himself a Jehovah's Witness. Sounds kind of stupid to me. That's why I just don't even read non of his stuff anymore, just don't feel right even if it is true.
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Interesting Ewatchman commentary on abuse
by trumangirl inanyone read ewatchman's latest commentary condemning the "shepherds"?
he makes an interesting application of the law in ot about a person being bloodguilty if they knew their bull was dangerous yet didn't warn the neighbours or restrain it.
he compares this to a recent legal case where the wt lawyers said that the elders are not responsible for protecting "congregants".
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Fun With The Watchtower. The Sisters Are Cows.
by Englishman innorm hovland very kindly gave me a cd with around 50 years watchtowers as a part of it.. cheers, norm!
i'm having great fun looking up stuff from the 60's and 70's that i recall causing me some astonishment at the time, even though i was still an active dubbie when they were published.
actually it was more than astonishment.
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It goes with the one that says because a woman's brain is smaller than a man's....
What? Which watchtower is this?
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MONEY OR LOVE? what is it ladies? (for you Badger)
by Sassy in.
the other night sandy and i were having an argument with badger about what women want.. he says money.. .
so what is it ladies?
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When your around my age it's all about looks. Maybe like 2% of "Oh he's a nice guy and he cares about my feelings" But that only goes for a cover... lol. All about looks when your a teenager. When you get into your 20s or so it's starts to get more into, if you have a future, looks, and personality. But shoot late 20s? What you have, what you have, and your personality. Not going to say money is everything but it is a BIG THING that can consider if your gonna have an ok relationship with the person. However, most people that work hard can support themselves to a degree. If you can support yourself then you got it made. It only starts getting dirty when you gotta support the lady also... and if you don't do it good enough. DIVORCE, get half of yo stuff. Gotta love, "love".
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BIBLICAL PROOF OF THE TRINITY?
by what_is_truth_7 inbiblical proof of the trinity
colossians 2:17
beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to christ.
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Oh ya about that quote what is truth. I dunno that really started me thinkin that the trinity was right when I read that a while ago. But I did some research about the old old OLD school scriptures, straight up hebrews and greek stuff. And the word Theos was used differently in that line... Which kind of wasn't in favor of the trinity. I'd say read the translations word for word of the hebrew and greek scriptures. Almost all bibles were made after the thought of the trinity came to be and it started kind of favoring the trinity in the translations over the years. Come on imperfect men translated these things, stuff change over time. Good old Telephone Syndrome.
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My Brother Begged Me To Come Back To Jehovah & His Organization!!!
by minimus ini recieved a 7 page "note" from my brother and his wife pleading with me to come back to jehovah god and his organization.
he said the devil was after me and my family and that the results will be disastrous unless i come back to "jehovah's protective custody".
also, it was strongly implied that unless my family went back to meetings and went out in field service, most jws, including family members would not attend my daughter's wedding and reception.my wife, daughter and i have been overtaken by the devil, according to him.
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Thing about JWs. Alot of people think they are heartless bastards, however, I really do think that he cares about you and he really do think he will never see you again after armeggedon that is coming in 2 hours. Sad sad situation heh? Of course you aren't going to go back. Life is always filled with problems ain't it. Hope everything works out.
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Trying to introduce my Brother
by Obviously Secret ini am seriously going to try to get my brother here after i talk to him a bit.
he has stopped coming to the meetings for a while now and he is super opened minded, however, i still think he has a little faith in the truth still.
i know it will be hard for him to realise that his life was a lie now come on.
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Hmm I need to start talkin to him more get him confortable. I might play the "Tell the truth" game. Say something kind of true about you that ain't all too pretty. Might talk about the different things I don't like about the org. Then just pop up HEY THIS WEBSITE IS COOL!!!!
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Suspicions About 'Rich' Witnesses
by metatron inrecently, i visited an area known for its 'healthy' congregations.
i spoke with an experienced elder about conditions.
he spoke glowingly about pioneers and not having enough kingdom halls.
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This isn't fact, just an opinion, but, the congregations that are the most worldly seem to be the ones who are more intacted than the congregations that are like totally cultish. My congregation is super laxed. You might even hear the occasional rap songs banging in the parking lot and you see some of the brothers and even an elder singing the words to it. Lol gotta love it. Plus you got your other congregations who are like predominently young people, who party ever chance they get and have the time of their lives. Those to me are the stable ones, along with the rich witnesses.
The only time I see serious problems is when people actually do what the WTS says to a tea and actually give up all they had and give up on further education to go out in service. That's nothing coming from the rich JW's right? Alot of times the wife can retire to become a full time pioneer cause they have money for the next 6 generations. However, when you see the people that aren't well sustained already then they give up everything for the work. That's when you start seeing the fist fights and the molestations and stuff.
This is just coming from me I know all congregations have these problems, just how I see it. Brainstormin I guess.
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Trying to introduce my Brother
by Obviously Secret ini am seriously going to try to get my brother here after i talk to him a bit.
he has stopped coming to the meetings for a while now and he is super opened minded, however, i still think he has a little faith in the truth still.
i know it will be hard for him to realise that his life was a lie now come on.
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No I Was planning to call him today and tell him to start talkin with me over msn or something so we can kind of get into it. Then I'll show him my big secret or what not.
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Trying to introduce my Brother
by Obviously Secret ini am seriously going to try to get my brother here after i talk to him a bit.
he has stopped coming to the meetings for a while now and he is super opened minded, however, i still think he has a little faith in the truth still.
i know it will be hard for him to realise that his life was a lie now come on.
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Obviously Secret
I am seriously going to try to get my brother here after I talk to him a bit. He has stopped coming to the meetings for a while now and he is super opened minded, however, I still think he has a little faith in the truth still. I know it will be hard for him to realise that his life was a lie now come on. So if he comes here just try to show him some respect and talk to him nicely and stuff. But I wanted to ask you guys something.
How should I approach him about coming here? And what kinds of stuff should I expose him to around this site? just need some oppinions, anythings welcomed.
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Yiou Got Two Minutes Left Of Your Life, What Would You Do?
by Yizuman insaw an interesting thread, made me think....
"what would you do if you found out you were going to die in 2 minutes?
yiz
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Obviously Secret
I hope I'm around a whole bunch of women when everybody officially knows they are going to die in 2 minutes. God I hope.
<hopefully make love also>
Ima ask this question to a whole bunch of people now lol